Zoom In Bullets like in Workflowy or Logseq | Voters

Zoom In Bullets like in Workflowy or Logseq

felixsd

Please add a zoom-in functionallity, so when you click on a bullet you only see the bullets underneath the one you clicked.

February 20, 2024

Sundar Visweswaran

Dynalist, while not an outliner, has this feature. When you click on a bullet, it zooms in and creates a breadcrumb of the hierarchy.

Nathan Snyder

I really hope Reflect doesn't go down this route. I'd like to see Reflect focus on having a pure text editor experience for notes. I'd really like bulleted lists to just be simply text.

To me if you want to create a focused space for a subitem you should create a link to a new note.

Andy Freeland

Nathan Snyder I write 99% of my notes in the daily notes, and use pages primarily for aggregating linked content from those daily notes.
Since everything goes into the daily notes, it gets real messy real quick. 
Its basically impossible to focus on any particular piece of writing when you can see all the contents of your day right next to it.
even collapsing all the bullets doesnt help.
This feature could be added without affecting the current workflow whatsoever.
IE: if you zoomed into a bullet with Cmd+Shift+Click, it would never accidentally happen as another user mentioned.
Nothing would change unless you intentionally zoomed, otherwise it would work exactly as it does now.

Nathan Snyder

Andy Freeland I've used Reflect a bit longer now and I now see the advantages of putting most new notes into my daily notes. This makes backlinks work better, but to you're point it makes your daily note get messy real quick.
So, I agree. There needs to be a way to focus on one "note" at a time. "zooming" into a bullet could work.
That said, I think the being able to zoom into bullets infinitely has the potential to confuse the app navigation semantics.
I'm onboard with a way to focus on one item in your daily note at a time as long as it doesn't complicate navigation or add friction to basic text editing.

Bob Hannon

This is one of my most desired features! Love the experience in Workflowy to dive in and out of focus levels

Andy Freeland

Bob Hannon 100%. Theres so much fkn clutter in my daily notes because i put everything in them. Bullet/Node focus/zoom is a no brainer.

Alex MacCaw

Merged in a post:

Ability to zoom into a node

Adam Waxman

Similar to Workflowy, I'd love to see is the ability to zoom into specific nodes. This will allow for a more simple/focused daily note taking experience while keeping the nice organization

May 27, 2024

Juan Ramírez

This would be great!

Ziggy Tonumaa

i totally support this feature. but the final result would have to be unobtrusive. it's where great apps like dynalist, workflowy and notion go wrong - so much clutter everywhere

Andy Freeland

Ziggy Tonumaa if it was just a modifierkey+click i dont see how it would be obtrusive at all. youd literally have to intentionally activate it, othertwise youd never notice its there

Dan Cohen

This is becoming dealbreaker feature for me. Notice a huge cognitive clarity between blank white space and a document full of parent click down nodes.
Considering switching back to workflowy / similar for this feature as the mental output has been noticeable.
Alex MacCaw - Is there serious consideration on this similar to workflowy? If not def would like to know what will never make it to the product roadmap. Thank you for the great work.

Alex MacCaw

Dan Cohen: I understand, but I suspect a strict hierarchy app like Workflowy might be better for your use-case. I'm still not sure if we're going to add this or not, and if we do it takes back seat to more pressing items (like memory perf, tasks).

Carlos McCoy

Alex MacCaw: Another option could be to give the option of a focus mode? Mem does a great job of this, when turned on, all the surrounding UI disappears once you start typing, and then reappears once you move your cursor.

It seems most of us in the comments are looking to solve the problem of focus/cognitive load in the daily note, rather than looking for structural changes to how Reflect works with its hierarchies. Hopefully this might lead to an easier update?

Alex MacCaw

Carlos McCoy: We already have this :)

Carlos McCoy

Alex MacCaw: Yes and I love it :) Haha sorry should have been clearer, Ammar Ammar explains it better:
"some sort of focus option to fade away opacity as you get further away from the selected bullet
i.e.: selected 100% opacity, direct parent 80%, parent 2 60% etc.
Still maintains context and supports free-form a little better, but allows a little bit more focus?"

Andy Freeland

Alex MacCaw Even in "focus" mode, im still distracted by the endless spread of my day's thoughts. I put everything in the daily note and only use pages to aggregate linked content, which means theres A LOT of stuff in the daily note (ie: everything). even with collapsed bullets, i can still see all my thoughts from the day. If im trying to focus on a specific thought or piece of writing, seeing all my thoughts/notes from the day is a focus killer, especially for those with ADHD.

Andy Freeland

this would be better than what we currently have.. but better yet would be the ability to adjust between focus on only current bullet, with grades of letting the extra context in around it.

But yeah thats the idea.. instead of thinking in terms of "zooming" it may be better to think in terms of simply HIDING everything surrounding the bullet you are focused on, and its children

Carlos McCoy

A masssssive +1 to this one! I want to be able to only focus on one header or bullet in the daily note without having to create a new note and work from there.

This would be so helpful:

Easier to focus without distractions of the day's other notes (this is big)
Sometimes I want to show someone something and don't want them to see the rest of the day's notes. So it's a bit of a hassle having to convert it to a standalone note and then move the content. Would be much easier to be able to just focus in on it.

Kai L

Carlos McCoy: Was thinking this is a great example of this usecase! Even screenshotting something doesn't work well if other nodes are visible.

Kai L

Upvote for this. Would give me a greater ability to enter focus mode / flow mode while writing in Reflect.

Kai L

To the earlier points on how this may work in Reflect - if I can collapse a dot point, it feels like I should be able to click in

Dan Peterson

I would love this, but would also love the ability to turn a node into a document. A lot of the time I get started by taking notes inline with indented bullets around a subject but then realize after it gets too large that oh, this should really be a whole new note. It'd be awesome if I could just right-click on a node and select "convert to Note" or something and it's essentially converted to a backlink with everything that is indented below it moved over into that new note.

Maybe I need to create a new feature request for that but it feels related to this one too. Like once I've had a need to "zoom into" a node for focusing, it feels like there's a good chance I should just turn that into it's own note.

Dan Peterson

Went ahead and created a new request for that: https://roadmap.reflect.app/feature-requests/p/convert-node-to-note

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